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1 -# Myth 1: "We will all blend into one race of mixed-race individuals."
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3 -**Claim:** Over time, humanity will homogenize into one race of mixed-race individuals due to globalization and intermixing.
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5 -**Rebuttal:**
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7 -* Blending into one race assumes uniform mixing across all populations, which is unlikely due to societal, cultural, and geographical barriers.
8 -* Historical evidence shows that distinct ethnic groups have maintained separate identities for millennia despite some intermixing.
9 -* High birth rates among certain populations mean some ethnic groups will likely persist as dominant demographics in specific regions.
10 -
11 -**Explanation:** The idea that humanity will blend into one homogenous race oversimplifies the reality of demographic trends. Different populations have maintained their distinct identities for centuries, even under conditions of migration and intermixing. For example, despite centuries of migration into Europe, distinct ethnicities like the Basques or Sami people still exist. Additionally, demographic trends show that fertility rates vary significantly across groups, meaning some populations grow faster than others. For instance, many African and Middle Eastern countries have much higher birth rates than Europe or East Asia, making a global "blending" implausible. Societies naturally form cultural and ethnic distinctions, even when migration occurs.
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15 -# Myth 2: "You cant determine who is White because people can be mixed, who really is White??"
16 -
17 -**Claim**: "White as a racial classification doesn't exist"
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19 -**Rebuttal**: White is just short for of European Descent, it doesnt mean skin color
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21 -## Relevant Studies
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23 -* [[Self Identification of race is over 99% effective|attach:GeneticStructureSelfIdentifiedRaceEthnicityAndConfoundingInCase-ControlAssociationStudies.pdf]] [Study](https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1196372/)
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25 -**Explanation**:
26 -
27 -Who is white?
28 -
29 -What constitutes a White person?
30 -
31 -"White" is synonymous with indigenous European. Race is not nationality. Race is genetic.
32 -
33 -Arabs are not White. Persians are not White. Turkic are not White. Jews are not White. Huns/Mongolians are not White. Berbers are not White (but possible were before the invasion of the Arabs). Because these are the closest groups to us genetically, it is possible to be White and have a minority of these genetics. But race mixing is discouraged due to the harmful effects on the offspring and society.
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35 -We use "White" because it is common usage. Indigenous European is a much better term, which you should adopt.
36 -
37 -But aren’t there no clear biological boundaries between races or ethnicities?
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39 -This is known as the continuum fallacy.
40 -
41 -Like many others things in nature, there are no exact boundaries to this concept. Visit a sandy beach, and tell us where the ocean ends and land begins. View a photo of the Andromeda Galaxy, and point to where the galaxy ends, and intergalactic space begins. Where does the color red begin and when does it change to orange? All such boundaries must be arbitrary at some point.
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43 -You devolve into utter nihilism if you try to argue we should not have taxonomy because of this arbitrariness. The human mind works, at a core level, with groupings. Being against categorization based on arbitrariness or social constructionism is to say you think we should not have almost any groupings, including rock formations. There would be few exceptions. Perhaps prime numbers.
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45 -Calling someone "white" or "black" is figurative language. Arguing that people aren't actually "white" like paper is like arguing that people cannot really have "smooth" skin, or could not possible have a "heart of gold," as gold is a metal and can't pump blood.
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47 -If you look white and identify as white, you are white. If you possess so much non white admixture as to feel the need to mention it, you probably aren't white. And if you tell us you aren't white we will believe you. People who self identify as any racial group have been shown to belong to that racial group over 99% of the time.
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51 -# Myth 3: "Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives don’t harm white men."
52 -
53 -**Claim:** DEI is necessary to address historical inequities and does not disadvantage white men.
54 -
55 -**Rebuttal:**
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57 -* DEI initiatives often include hiring quotas or preferences that explicitly exclude white men, creating new forms of systemic bias.
58 -* Surveys and anecdotal evidence show that many companies deprioritize white male candidates to meet diversity metrics.
59 -* Addressing historical inequities doesn’t justify creating new disparities, particularly when these policies fail to account for merit.
60 -
61 -**Explanation:** This defense of DEI initiatives ignores the tangible harm they cause to individuals. I point to real-world examples where DEI policies lead to explicit discrimination. Companies like Coca-Cola have implemented training programs encouraging employees to "be less white," and countless hiring managers admit they deprioritize white male candidates to meet diversity quotas. These policies often overlook merit and qualifications, instead prioritizing characteristics like race or gender. While addressing historical inequities seems a noble goal, creating new inequalities that disadvantage people today doesn’t solve past injustices—it only shifts the harm to a new group.
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65 -# Myth 4: "IQ disparities across groups are purely environmental."
66 -
67 -**Claim:** Differences in IQ between groups are solely the result of environmental factors, dismissing any genetic contribution.
68 -
69 -## Relevant Studies
70 -
71 -* [[Thirty Years of Research on Race Differences in Cognitive Ability|attach:Main.Studies.Rushton-Jensen30years\.pdf@Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf]]
72 -[[Study PDF|attach:Main.Studies.Rushton-Jensen30years\.pdf@Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf]]
73 -
74 -**Rebuttal:**
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76 -* While environmental factors (e.g., nutrition, education) influence IQ, genetic factors also play a significant role in group differences.
77 -* The Flynn Effect demonstrates rising IQs over time due to environmental improvements, but it does not negate underlying genetic differences.
78 -* Studies consistently show both genetic and environmental contributions to IQ, and ignoring one oversimplifies the issue.
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80 -**Explanation:** While environmental factors such as better nutrition and education do affect IQ, they don’t fully explain group differences. For instance, the Flynn Effect shows that average IQs have risen globally due to environmental improvements, but group differences remain consistent. Genetics play a significant role alongside the environment. Studies on twins, for example, demonstrate that IQ is highly heritable. Ignoring this fact in favor of a purely environmental explanation is intellectually dishonest. It’s not about dismissing environmental factors but about acknowledging the complex interplay of genetics and environment in shaping intelligence.- Study
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84 -# Myth 5: "We’re all equally 'centered' on the map."
85 -
86 -**Claim:** Maps are arbitrary, with no true center, and that concepts like "the West" are socially constructed.
87 -
88 -**Rebuttal:**
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90 -* Maps are tools reflecting cultural and historical perspectives. While arbitrary in design, they reflect real-world geopolitical and historical contexts.
91 -* Western civilization, as a concept, emerged from shared historical, cultural, and geographic ties among European nations, not purely from arbitrary map placement.
92 -* The idea of a "center" in geography often reflects dominance in culture or power rather than physical location.
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94 -**Explanation:** While maps are technically arbitrary in their design, they reflect historical realities. I pointed out that the concept of "the West" isn’t about physical geography but shared cultural, historical, and ethnic ties among European nations. For instance, Europe appears at the center of many maps because European empires dominated global politics and trade for centuries. The geographic "center" reflects historical dominance, not an inherent truth. This is why maps vary based on cultural perspective—what’s arbitrary in design is grounded in historical reality.
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98 -# Myth 6: "Multicultural empires are models for modern society."
99 -
100 -**Claim:** Antiwhites point to historical empires (e.g., Ottoman Empire, Roman Empire, and even to the UAE and America today.) as examples of successful multiculturalism.
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102 -**Rebuttal:**
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104 -* Multicultural empires often succeeded by enforcing strict hierarchies and suppressing dissent, rather than promoting equality.
105 -* The Ottoman Empire relied on systems like the millet system to segregate communities, not integrate them.
106 -* The Roman Empire assimilated conquered peoples but maintained a dominant Roman identity, often through force and structural inequality.
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108 -**Explanation:** The examples of multicultural empires like the Ottomans and Romans fail to support Aurenvale’s argument. These empires maintain stability through control and segregation rather than true integration. The Ottomans used the millet system to segregate religious groups and maintain hierarchy, while the Romans forcibly assimilated conquered peoples under the dominance of Roman identity. The UAE has a very strict system of governance that you can't partake in if you are a foreigner even. So while the UAE is one of the only examples of "successful" multiculturalism, it retains complete control over its nation by rigid ethnic separation of its people from the foreign people that make up the majority of the population. As for America, it can attribute its success to the homogeneity it maintained from its founding until the [hart celler act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965) These models don’t reflect modern ideals of equality—they relied on structural inequality to sustain their rule. Modern societies aiming for coexistence need entirely different approaches than those used by historical empires.
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112 -# Myth 7: "Arab nations are part of Western civilization."
113 -
114 -**Claim**: Arab nations could be considered part of Western civilization because of shared practices like Christianity and trade.
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116 -**Rebuttal**:
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118 -* Western civilization is defined by specific historical and cultural developments in Europe, not by shared religious practices alone.
119 -* While some Arab nations were historically Christian, they do not share the philosophical, legal, and cultural traditions that define the West.
120 -* Trade relations with the West don’t equate to cultural integration.
121 -
122 -**Explanation**: Arab nations, while historically engaged with the West through trade and religion, do not form part of Western civilization. Western civilization is rooted in European history—the Enlightenment, Greco-Roman heritage, and unique cultural and legal systems. Even during periods of Christian dominance in certain Arab regions, their cultural and societal structures remained distinct from the West. Christianity alone doesn’t define Western identity, and trade interactions were just that—transactions, not cultural amalgamations.
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124 -# Myth 8: "Christianity is the sole unifier of Western civilization."
125 -
126 -**Claim:** Christianity culturally united the West against the "non-West" and formed the foundation of Western identity.
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128 -**Rebuttal:**
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130 -* Christianity is one of many factors that shaped Western civilization, but it is not the sole unifier. Shared ancestry, cultural values, and historical cooperation among European groups also played a role.
131 -* Christianity itself originated in the Middle East and is practiced globally, including by non-Western cultures (e.g., Arab Christians).
132 -* Other elements of Western civilization, such as the Enlightenment, Greco-Roman heritage, and scientific development, are independent of Christianity.
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134 -**Explanation:** While Christianity undeniably influenced Western civilization, it’s not the only or even primary unifying factor. I pointed out that shared ancestry among Europeans (e.g., Lithuanians and Spaniards) creates a deeper sense of unity than religion alone. Christianity, as a Middle Eastern-origin religion, is also practiced by Arabs, Ethiopians, and other non-European peoples, which contradicts the notion of it being unique to the West. Furthermore, Western civilization is just as deeply rooted in the secular achievements of the Enlightenment, Greek philosophy, and Roman governance, none of which rely on Christianity. Reducing Western unity to Christianity alone ignores these crucial cultural and historical pillars.
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136 -# Myth 9: "Common ancestry doesn’t matter for cultural unity."
137 -
138 -**Claim**: Shared ancestry among Europeans is irrelevant to their cultural unity.
139 -
140 -**Rebuttal**:
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142 -* Shared ancestry provides a foundation for common values, language development, and traditions.
143 -* Historical cooperation among European groups shows the importance of shared ancestry in forming alliances and cultural bonds.
144 -* Genetic studies reveal that Europeans share significant ancestry, reinforcing their cultural cohesion.
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146 -**Explanation**:
147 -
148 -Shared ancestry isn’t just a biological fact but a cultural cornerstone. For instance, European nations have historically formed alliances based on shared ethnic and cultural identities. Language families like the Indo-European group stem from this common ancestry, creating linguistic and cultural links across nations. Ignoring this connection overlooks a key factor in how civilizations form cohesive identities over time. Shared ancestry provides the framework upon which shared values and traditions are built, making it integral to cultural unity.
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